meanwhile, we can tell you that homeland security secretary janet napolitano, she is also appearing at a judiciary committee hearing this morning on immigration reform. happening right now. wolf, given the fact that both suspects immigrated to this country in the last decade, expect the case to come up. wolf. >> just to recap the senate intelligence committee will have a separate briefing with the fbi, the house intelligence committee will have their hearing, both will be behind closed doors, no media allowed inside. is that right? >> that's right. and that's typically what happens in these cases, wolf. because there -- there might be sensitive national security details that are divulged during the hearings, they are often closed to the public. however, we'll be staking out during those hearings and trying to find out, what, if anything, being said about whether or not some red flags were missed in the case of tamerlan tsavraev in his trip to russia back in 2011. wolf. >> and everybody agrees, the most important thing right now, to learn lessons from what happened, not necessarily for